Late, but:

 - Reworked mania, including new talents Sustained by the Voices and Psychic Link
 - Clinching now grants hate
 - Spurred by the Voices now stacks speed and res pen
 - Cursed Form no longer requires Wil
 - Throws now gain bonus damage from grapples instead of non-grappling penalty

I can't wait to play as the (non-crazy) orcs.

Fighting against a Sher'Tul to save the world from amakthel is not what I expected but this is going to be awesomer than simply retaking the east. :D

I wonder if this might end the whole "Orcs are dangerous and need to be exterminated!" thing. :/

No idea who Ureslak is though.

Shut up and take my money

Hotfix. Will rebalance a few things and probably redo Mania in the near future.
 - Fixed lua error with Spurred particles
 - Deathblows doc improved
 - "death punch" -> "mortal blow"
 - Hate regen from grappling now shows up in the hate bar

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Yeah, he was definitely inside a vault. I'm still very new to the game and have always been able to clear vaults without much issue, so I don't think I was giving them the proper respect. Thanks for the tips, folks!

Really, Flurry is one of the hardest hit talents, or THE hardest hit talent.

Stack some +damage on hit and you can dish out 1000+ damage by level 15-20, depending on your luck on gears. Later in game, each piece of gear can give you 40+ damage. I think I've seen some gers that have some crazy +100 damage on them.

Of course, you will have to balance offensive with defensive too. And having at least 2 movement skills are essential as well(unless you have 1 that is 100% reliable). In TOME4, many deaths are from when you cannot run away from the bad situations quickly enough.

Maybe I'm a bit strange but I enjoyed the zone my self. Only got to do it once and to me it really painted a bigger picture of the orcs and the length they were willing to go to protect their own intrests and species. It was dark, it was disturbing, and it was fun.

The creatures there would do Shub-Niggurath proud which is worth bonus points to me.

It also gave me something to point my P&P DM to and say 'Look it's been done in a game why can't I do it in character?' reguarding the creation of a near limitless army produced by magicaly tortured 'assistants' that could be recycled by necromancy after expiration for twice the effect. >.> <.<

If people are so bent out of shape by an area just add a 'censor' option to the game settings to allow people to turn off the zone without it effecting other player's games. A designer and writer should NEVER have to fear people's reaction to their work and if there is negetive reaction the best middle ground is one that doesn't change your vision or ideas.

I'm tired so the level of sense I'm making might not be on the upper teirs at this point but yea... sad to see the zone go really.

That's RogueLikes for you. ToME4 is even unusually "fair" in that regard. :)

...and then the Vor pride, and read the Orc's account of the war, and I must say, I've never felt so uncomfortable about my characters action's in a video game before. That is a testament to the writing for the whole game, and the far east zones especially. Going from feeling surprisingly conflicted about the whole genocide thing (considering it's a video game), to reading the orc history and finding out that yeah, my character could justifiably be considered a monster (and to rub salt in an old wound, my character was a halfling), was a pretty profound experience. It's the sort of thing that shows just how powerful an art form video games are.

Having said that, I'm not trying to badger DG to put it back in. I fully understand that there are people who want to play this game, and don't want to have that specific sort of experience. Genocide really has and continues to happen in the real world. These topics are not escapism, and ToME isn't advertised as an art game about the moral relativism of war, or the rational behind why people commit genocide. Clearly, DG's willingness to pull the section shows that this is not the the way he primarily thinks of the game either. That many fans of this game weren't offended by the zone, doesn't somehow negate the fact that some people obviously were, or make their reasons invalid. No decent person likes to have offend other people, regardless of their intentions. I don't assume DG had much fun making this decision, and I don't think pressuring him to go through it all again is the same as sticking up for him.

I just wanted to say that while I'm not offended that the zone is removed, I'm glad I had a chance to play through it. It made me feel bad about what I was doing. That's not something that a book, or a movie, or a painting can do. It's what makes good video games something special.

Thanks.

- Max Thick Skin is a must for all classes, IMHO.
- You will probably want to max Guardian of the Wood too. Together, you are getting 25% all resist. The effect is exponential when the % is higher.
- If you can still take points out from stealth tree, put them in Dual Strike and Flurry first.
- With your max Back stab, max Flurry will do insane damage.
- Try getting movement infusion. Trust me, it is very useful.
- Flurry also goes very well with +damage on hit. Some pieces of equipment will give you +40 or more damage per hit.

Rogue is one of the more difficult melee classes.
In general, melee classes are more difficult than range classes.

Try archer for a very straight forward (and kinda repetitive) range class. Alchemist is also very straight forward, but you need to do a bit of micromanagement.

For the easiest class to play, try summoner. I know what some people may say, but the majority of players agree this class is way overpowered. You may still die though, because you will get so careless playing this class.